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Extreme Vandwelling Part 2: Straw Bale Van in the Yukon Territory
This is part two of my story on Cud Eastbound’s journey to spend a winter in Dawson City, Yukon Territories. With his permission I’ve reprinted his words and photos here. I think it’s an important story for us because I know many vandwellers who also want to own a piece of land they call their own and can spend part of the year on. I bought an acre of land for just that reason myself. Cud is proof that buying land and making it ready to live on is not that difficult or expensive.
I paid $2000 for an acre in northern Arizona and I plan to dig out a trench and bury a school bus for my home. I believe I can rent a Caterpillar D3 and buy the non-running school bus and have it delivered for less that $1000. That’s pretty cheap for an underground home ready to move into!
We’re all going to get old and be forced off the road at some time and nearly all of us have a hunger for a place we call our own. While few of us will face the extreme cold of the Yukon, we can buy a piece of land and find old-time, simple, basic methods to create a very cheap and comfortable home for ourselves for our old-age or just for a stop-over on our annual migration.
The key thing to learn here are Cud’s boldness, ingenuity and frugality. Those are attributes every vandweller should strive to have more of.
I hope you are as inspired by it as I am. Check out his blog at http://nightdanger.lostwarren.com/
Shelves
Night Danger is a big van, but there are many more things I could change on the inside in order to optimize space, and a lot more to come, but for now… Taking out the front seats was good, I need to borrow a grinder to get the bolts out of the floor, but for now it will be good. Shelves! Little shelves, big ones, any kind of shelf is great!
The Outhouse and Woodshed
It finally snowed!
I still have not gotten my straw bales… a little mix up in Whitehorse. But that’s ok, still plenty of stuff to do! Here’s some photos of my quick woodshed, and some other neat things
Here are some photos of my really quick outhouse, Its getting cold, and… I am not very fussy about where I poop. But I dug out and buried my main poles, then hucked some tin over it! For the poles I used some of the wood I’ve been getting up the Dempster highway, its old forest fire wood. Spruce I believe, and its light and strong. Normally I would not expose wood to earth, as it will rot, but it’s a temporary structure that will need improvements in the future.
The Platform
So, first things first I guess… I visit the dump every day to collect as many free supplies as possible.
Thought it would be a great idea to have a floor, to keep me, the van & the straw up off of the ground… less moisture…. keep away from the permafrost.
Straw Bales
So… the straw bales came quite late in the season and I was planning on mudding “stucco” or “cob” whatever the outside of the bales. However the temperature dropped too quickly and anything I would have applied to the bales would have either not stuck, or not cured properly.
I decided to purchase house wrap… $70 dollars later and some tuck tape I was in business.
Had some awesome help from friends and we got it all taped up…. Oh before that I used rope and twine to tie all the bales together, so they would not fall down.
And if they don’t, you’ll still have memories of an adventure that you’ll treasure forever!
Either way, you win!
Hardships in trying and maybe succeeding or maybe failing are never our enemy. Boredom and un-lived life are!
This is a test.
Bob
cud is having to much fun. love it.love it. love it.
ice cream raz
Too much fun ?? U’r kidding, what he had for sure was TOO MUCH WORK ! He dugg holes, he built the platform for the van,he chopped fire-wood, he lift all those straw-bales to cover the van, he built the outhouse…etc etc. I could bet Cud didn’t need sleeping pills those nights after a hard-labor day, bet he slept like a baby !!
His house is a piece of art @ master piece, very creative Cud !
My regards to U Raz & to Cud. Lucy.
Raz: I LOVE ice-cream as well, the problem is….it goes to female’s hips & to males belly !!
Agreed!
Bob
is a school bus structurally sound enough to be buried. well and not collapse. why not dig the hole and pour a concrete house? cover with dirt. i know from experience that an underground home is much cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. not toasty in the winter but somewhat warm. my definition of warm could be suspect.
psychologically light is healthy. how is that going to work?
d3 are good little dozers. if you have never ran one, go slow. don’t try to take it all at once. a little bit each pass. slow and steady wins the prize. also it will take longer than you think. in construction nothing ever is on schedule. things like a rock the size of a studebaker are occasionally discovered. laugh. the d3 is great, you aren’t digging grand canyon.
you might want to ask the local diggers about the wisdom of this. maybe not i don’t know. i’ve met people that have done the concrete cellar thing before. the choice location appears to have been next to the tavern. laugh.
ice cream raz
L O L !!
Hi Raz, I won’t bury the roof. I’ll orient it east-west and the north side I will backfill to the roof so it that wall will be completely covered and the roof will have a foot or two of dirt. I’ll have to research how much weight it can bear. I’ll put styrofoam down first, then cover it.
The front with the engine will be completely covered with dirt and the back with the door will be left open as a back door. The south wall will be buried up to the windows and be left open above that for light and ventilation. I’ll probably cover and insulate some of the windows.
That will be too much sunlight in the summer, so I will put in an overhang that will shade the windows in the heat of the summer and then in the winter it will be low enough to shine through for heat.
Lots more details but I won’t go into them, that’s the broad outline.
I built a house in Alaska and rented a D3 to put in the driveway and clear the lot. It was a fun day! One of my better memories!
Bob
Bob, instead of burying the school bus, have you thought of orienting one side of it south, making a hill, and partially burying it with one side into the hill? That would transform it into something like an earthship, so you could get solar gain (and some light!!) from the windows that are exposed, but have the thermal mass of the hill to even temps out year round.
Interesting project, I look forward to seeing what you do with it!
Hi Ming, here are more details of what I have in mind: I won’t bury the roof. I’ll orient it east-west and the north side I will backfill to the roof so it that wall will be completely covered and the roof will have a foot or two of dirt. I’ll have to research how much weight it can bear. I’ll put styrofoam down first, then cover it.
The front with the engine will be completely covered with dirt and the back with the door will be left open as a back door. The south wall will be buried up to the windows and be left open above that for light and ventilation. I’ll probably cover and insulate some of the windows.
That will be too much sunlight in the summer, so I will put in an overhang that will shade the windows in the heat of the summer and then in the winter it will be low enough to shine through for heat.
Lots more details but I won’t go into them, that’s the broad outline.
Bob
Bob, you had posted before that you found that your land use was restricted by septic requirements or some other legal restrictions that would put a dent in your plans. How did that work out?
Doug, I didn’t buy wisely! It’s nothing I could put the school bus on but I can spend the summer on it. I could build on it but I have to stay inside the code so the school bus idea would be out of the question.
Bob
ah, that is what I was describing. Using a school bus seems an efficient way to get a liveable structure up and running.
Ming, yeah it’s an instant home. And compared to a van, it’s huge!
Bob
Here is another Believer. Check out his story.
http://www.grindtv.com/lifestyle/culture/post/meet-pro-baseball-player-lives-van/?sm_id=social_aumogrindtvhub_GrindTV_20150205_39990226&adbid=10152725480289895&adbpl=fb&adbpr=8782279894
Carl, thanks for that link, what a cool story and what a great guy! He gives me some hope for the future.
Bob
A thing to consider when straw-baling a van, or any living quarters for the winter: Before the base layer of bales goes down, sprinkle moth balls all around,-and around each tire where it rests on the floor- and put some between each layer of bales as you go up. Otherwise you will fight the always losing battle with the voles all winter long. (or mice, depending upon where you live!)
Keeping the mothbolls OUTSIDE of the vehicle will avoid that smell you can never get rid of INside the van, and keep the rodents well way.
That’s a very good tip Kezzie, thanks for sharing it with us.
Bob