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Poverty Prepping: Types of Cooking Fuel
This is a guest post by my good friend Lesa on different fuels for cooking. Having hiked ortions of the Appalachian Trail and living 6 years in Costa Rica she has a lot of experience cooking with non-traditional means. That’s made critically important because she is allergic to propane and can’t stand to be around it. What she’s learned about alternative fuels is very important to us because in the event of an extended emergency propane may be unavailable and we’ll need other choices. Check out her blog!! http://simplylesa.blogspot.com/
For new vandwellers, deciding on how to put together your kitchen can be a time consuming and confusing process. Because it’s a “hobby” of mine I’ve spent a lot of time with trial and error to learn what works best for me. In this article I’m hoping some of my experiments can be helpful to you and make your life easier. (Editors note; We’ll cover much of this material in more detail later.)
I suggest you start by looking at the many options that campers, hikers and boaters use because they are so similar to the limited space we have in a van. The best way to begin is with defining your needs and getting real with yourself. If you don’t like to prepare food, don’t like to clean up, or don’t want to wash dishes then your choices will be very different from a gourmet chef who needs many pans cooking at once as he makes elaborate meals. So be honest with yourself and work within the limited amount of space you have.
The first thing you have to decide is what you will use as a fuel source. Let’s look at some of your options:
Propane is a good, reliable, inexpensive fuel source around most of the world. Something as simple as a Coleman propane stove is probably your best choice. Unfortunately I have an allergic/severe sensitivity to propane so I had to look for other options. (Editors Note: If the power grid goes down for long, you won’t be able to buy any more propane.) Coleman 1-Burner Stove
Butane is another good, hot heat source. It has four big disadvantages: 1) it doesn’t work in temperatures below 32 degrees 2) its expensive 3) it can be hard to find 4) in an extended emergency, you will NOT be able to buy more. But, because of the simplicity of butane stoves they can be a neat, simple, easy to use system that you many people love. Camp Chef Butane Stove with Camping Case
Many hikers and outdoor people are familiar with small ISO Butane canister stoves designed for backpackers. These lightweight tiny pressurized canisters can be found in sporting goods stores and Wal-Mart. I’ve been told that the fuel lasts quite a long time and boils water very quickly. Again, in the event of an emergency the little bottles will be unavailable.
Alcohol is one more good cooking fuel – it is relatively safe to use although it burns so clean that you can hardly see the flame, storage is less of a factor because it is non-pressurized, it is inexpensive and can be purchased all over the world. Kept in its original or a special hikers fuel container, it should last indefinitely. Many world traveling nomads, boaters and thru hikers like alcohol as a fuel. There are many home-made types of alcohol stoves available with directions and videos to Do It Yourself are in many places on the internet.
Esbit Brass Alcohol Burner Camping Stove
Solar can be used to cook in three ways: 1) solar panels to power a microwave, slow cooker, 12 volt appliances or coffee pots 2) solar ovens to directly cook food 3) solar water heater or thermoses. One example I’ve tried is passive solar on my van to create a Dashboard Dehydrator for my raw food experiments and dehydrated crackers and pizza crusts.
Solid fuels, like Esbit tables or WetFire cubes. These work well, although they are chemical based and have a smell, so it’s best to use them outside. They aren’t as available as other options but you can order them online or find them at outdoor outfitters like Campmor, REI or Gander Mountain. These are a very light weight fuel source and good for hiking trips where you only boil water. Because they are a little difficult to find, stock up whenever you do find them. Again, in an emergency they will be the first thing gone off store shelves.
Coghlan’s Folding Stove
Sterno, which is basically jellied alcohol. Sterno is relatively safe because in a jellied state it does not spill easily. Though Sterno does not get very hot, this is a good fuel for someone who likes to wait for food to warm up slowly or for teaching youngsters how to handle cooking over a fire. Sterno Gel Fuel, 24 Count
Charcoal, works well, but it’s dirty. I’m not a big fan of charcoal because I like my food fast, I don’t want to wait and you also have to carry something to help start it. Things like: 1) lighter fluid 2) bags of charcoal that are pre-soaked with fluid like the MatchLight brand 3) you can pick up chunks of charcoal from an old fire pit and douse it with alcohol or hand sanitizer and then it will light. Lodge Camp Dutch Oven, 8 Qt
Wood can be great even though it’s dirty because the dishes get sooty. But it has the advantage of being free and easily found in small quantities in most places. Because of fire bans and limited amounts of firewood in some areas, you may have to buy firewood. I’m a fan of things like hobo stoves, rocket stoves, gasifiers and Kelly Kettles. Simple DIY or close to it stoves that use twigs or even cardboard or newspaper as fuel. I was blessed with a Kelly Kettle and love the way I can boil water even in wet, nasty and windy conditions. And if money is running low, I most likely can pick up a few sticks here and there for free. I also have a similar MKettle that is designed for hiking and is just enough water for 1 person. Kelly Kettle USA – Volcano Kettle – Ultra Fast Boiling Kettle
I carry multiple stoves while traveling so that I have options, although I am rethinking this idea due to the small space in my van. I think knowing and practicing different options is wise given the state of the world we live in. From a prepper mentality, I’m pretty well prepared. I could likely make a stove out of nearly anything if survival was an issue.
Editors Note. In the event of an Emergency of any kind one of the first things to disappear from store shelves will be methods of cooking so you must have them on hand now, before you need them. But there’s no way you can carry enough fuel for an extended emergency so I strongly recommend you consider renewable fuels with an unlimited supply like wood and solar. For short term emergencies I suggest you carry 2-5 gallons of Denatured Alcohol for cooking and heat. If you learn how to make Pepsi can alcohol stoves and carry a bunch of empty cans and plastic bottles you can make an excellent barter items Make the stove, fill a bottle with alcohol and give them a box of matches and you can trade that for almost anything you want!
We’ll cover wood, solar and alcohol cooking in detail in a later post.
For new vandwellers, deciding on how to put together your kitchen can be a time consuming and confusing process. Because it’s a “hobby” of mine I’ve spent a lot of time with trial and error to learn what works best for me. In this article I’m hoping some of my experiments can be helpful to you and make your life easier. (Editors note; We’ll cover much of this material in more detail later.)
I suggest you start by looking at the many options that campers, hikers and boaters use because they are so similar to the limited space we have in a van. The best way to begin is with defining your needs and getting real with yourself. If you don’t like to prepare food, don’t like to clean up, or don’t want to wash dishes then your choices will be very different from a gourmet chef who needs many pans cooking at once as he makes elaborate meals. So be honest with yourself and work within the limited amount of space you have.
The first thing you have to decide is what you will use as a fuel source. Let’s look at some of your options:
Propane is a good, reliable, inexpensive fuel source around most of the world. Something as simple as a Coleman propane stove is probably your best choice. Unfortunately I have an allergic/severe sensitivity to propane so I had to look for other options. (Editors Note: If the power grid goes down for long, you won’t be able to buy any more propane.) Coleman 1-Burner Stove
Butane is another good, hot heat source. It has four big disadvantages: 1) it doesn’t work in temperatures below 32 degrees 2) its expensive 3) it can be hard to find 4) in an extended emergency, you will NOT be able to buy more. But, because of the simplicity of butane stoves they can be a neat, simple, easy to use system that you many people love. Camp Chef Butane Stove with Camping Case
Many hikers and outdoor people are familiar with small ISO Butane canister stoves designed for backpackers. These lightweight tiny pressurized canisters can be found in sporting goods stores and Wal-Mart. I’ve been told that the fuel lasts quite a long time and boils water very quickly. Again, in the event of an emergency the little bottles will be unavailable.
Alcohol is one more good cooking fuel – it is relatively safe to use although it burns so clean that you can hardly see the flame, storage is less of a factor because it is non-pressurized, it is inexpensive and can be purchased all over the world. Kept in its original or a special hikers fuel container, it should last indefinitely. Many world traveling nomads, boaters and thru hikers like alcohol as a fuel. There are many home-made types of alcohol stoves available with directions and videos to Do It Yourself are in many places on the internet.
Esbit Brass Alcohol Burner Camping Stove
Solar can be used to cook in three ways: 1) solar panels to power a microwave, slow cooker, 12 volt appliances or coffee pots 2) solar ovens to directly cook food 3) solar water heater or thermoses. One example I’ve tried is passive solar on my van to create a Dashboard Dehydrator for my raw food experiments and dehydrated crackers and pizza crusts.
Solid fuels, like Esbit tables or WetFire cubes. These work well, although they are chemical based and have a smell, so it’s best to use them outside. They aren’t as available as other options but you can order them online or find them at outdoor outfitters like Campmor, REI or Gander Mountain. These are a very light weight fuel source and good for hiking trips where you only boil water. Because they are a little difficult to find, stock up whenever you do find them. Again, in an emergency they will be the first thing gone off store shelves.
Coghlan’s Folding Stove
Sterno, which is basically jellied alcohol. Sterno is relatively safe because in a jellied state it does not spill easily. Though Sterno does not get very hot, this is a good fuel for someone who likes to wait for food to warm up slowly or for teaching youngsters how to handle cooking over a fire. Sterno Gel Fuel, 24 Count
Charcoal, works well, but it’s dirty. I’m not a big fan of charcoal because I like my food fast, I don’t want to wait and you also have to carry something to help start it. Things like: 1) lighter fluid 2) bags of charcoal that are pre-soaked with fluid like the MatchLight brand 3) you can pick up chunks of charcoal from an old fire pit and douse it with alcohol or hand sanitizer and then it will light. Lodge Camp Dutch Oven, 8 Qt
Wood can be great even though it’s dirty because the dishes get sooty. But it has the advantage of being free and easily found in small quantities in most places. Because of fire bans and limited amounts of firewood in some areas, you may have to buy firewood. I’m a fan of things like hobo stoves, rocket stoves, gasifiers and Kelly Kettles. Simple DIY or close to it stoves that use twigs or even cardboard or newspaper as fuel. I was blessed with a Kelly Kettle and love the way I can boil water even in wet, nasty and windy conditions. And if money is running low, I most likely can pick up a few sticks here and there for free. I also have a similar MKettle that is designed for hiking and is just enough water for 1 person. Kelly Kettle USA – Volcano Kettle – Ultra Fast Boiling Kettle
I carry multiple stoves while traveling so that I have options, although I am rethinking this idea due to the small space in my van. I think knowing and practicing different options is wise given the state of the world we live in. From a prepper mentality, I’m pretty well prepared. I could likely make a stove out of nearly anything if survival was an issue.
Editors Note. In the event of an Emergency of any kind one of the first things to disappear from store shelves will be methods of cooking so you must have them on hand now, before you need them. But there’s no way you can carry enough fuel for an extended emergency so I strongly recommend you consider renewable fuels with an unlimited supply like wood and solar. For short term emergencies I suggest you carry 2-5 gallons of Denatured Alcohol for cooking and heat. If you learn how to make Pepsi can alcohol stoves and carry a bunch of empty cans and plastic bottles you can make an excellent barter items Make the stove, fill a bottle with alcohol and give them a box of matches and you can trade that for almost anything you want!
We’ll cover wood, solar and alcohol cooking in detail in a later post.
Thanks for this.
Have you tried or considered a Wonderbag?
Heyday, I’d never heard of it before so I found it on Amazon and I am very impressed. I think it would be a tremendous way to save prescious fuel in an emergency, or just everyday!
have you tried one? I’d be very curious to see how it worked for you.
Wonderbag Portable Slow Cooker“>
If the thermal efficiency is similar to my Tiger Thermal cooker, then it should work very well. I tried a homemade version of this (bundle the pot up in blankets), which worked well except it ended up getting damp from steam and smelling like the contents of the soup. The Tiger cooker just wipes clean of the accumulated moisture.
Thermal cooking is handy – bring to a boil, simmer for 15 minutes, and let cook by itself for the next 3-5 hours. It’s equivalent to leaving it in the electric crockpot all day.
Ming, yes, thermal cooking is an old and very effective cooking method. In the old days it was sometimes called “haybox cooking” because they used hay as the insulation. It worked well!
Bob
maybe a trangia multifuel x2
peaceup raz
Trangia’s are very good. The only thing I prefer about the Esbit model – which is basically the same. The Esbit and some other newer alcohol stoves include a little handle on the simmer ring. It sure makes it easier to handle than the Trangia.
Lesa, I’ll second that! I have a Trangia and turning the simmer ring is very difficult. The Esbit looks easier to use because of it.
Bob
breid1903, I’m not familiar with it but it looks like it’s pretty expensive. The only liquid fuel stove I’m recommending is alcohol because a gallon of alcohol in it’s original can will last for decades. So if I store a can of it for 10 years, it will still work just fine. Plus alcohol stoves have no working parts and are virtually indestructible. If you break it or lose it you can make a new one out of any pepsi can.
Bob
Thanks a bunch for the info in this post! I had read about rocket stoves but the Kelly Kettle is completely new to me. Most rocket-type stoves are pretty big but the Kelly is nice a small, and much cheaper than the big ones. Definitely picking one up (through the link here to help Bob out!) Thanks again!
The Kelly Kettle is a wonderful piece of equipment. Over this winter, I had been designing a rocket stove top for the fire pot on the Kelly Kettle….and wouldn’t you know it, I checked the company and they are going to offer one themselves this year!
I suggest checking that out.
If you prefer the look of ‘NEW’ that the average US people I have been meeting this year, you might want to learn how to choose and protect your pots from the build up of soot.
DASA, the Kelley Kettles were designed for Irish fisherman who needed a small, safe and very fast way to make hot water. They work very well!
Bob
To save a bit more time on cooking…… One can use a good thermos to just add hot water to your pasta/rice/ingredients and in a few hours , while your off enjoying life, you will have a hot dinner. In that way, cooking times are lowered.
I’m kinda surprised I haven’t seen many mention sitting black jugs in sun and using for some extra [free] thermal warmth.
I’d like to hear more about dashboard dehydrating, with pics…pretty please. I have an elec. dehydrator and thought maybe it could work being hung outside, under a tree, with strings or wires, using just the racks. You could even use a 12v fan blowing through it, to speed things up. That way your van won’t smell like grass drying in the sun.
Joy
I have had a non-electric version of a screened in dehydrator on my wish list for years. In the Southwest US this would be a wonderful addition. It would certainly keep smells out of the vehicle during Dashboard Dehydration….but for now my Dashboard is FREE! I like free!
Check out my blog for more pictures and soon I will post some recipes as well.
If you can afford the wonderful Global Sun Oven, they sell a dehydrator specifically for it that I’ve heard works extremely well! Once you’be bought it, it is free forever from then on.
Bob
Joy, I almost included that idea but I’m not sure it’s safe. Those plastic jugs aren’t intended to be reused or painted so I’m concerned that the toxins from the paint would leech through. I would use it to wash but to drink or cook with.
I used to work in the dairy dept in a grocery store and when we had just a few gallons of close-dated milk we would use a magic marker to write a reduced price on them to sell them fast. After awhile the bosses told us to never do it again because the ink leeched through and tainted the milk. After that we had to go find a pricing gun and mark them. But even then we had to use a magic marker to slash through the UPC or it would scan at the full price. i guess that was okay.
Bob
I live in Phoenix and my veterinary technicians cook cookies for the clinic on the dashboard of their car during the summer. Yes, it easily gets that hot in there. Never thought of dehydrating food on a dashboard though.
Bob has mentioned it in other posts, but freezer bag cooking is also popular among backpackers. Just google it and you’ll find all you need to know. Because it usually just involves rehydrating dehydrated foods it is a good van dweller option. Boil water, rehydrate food, place in a “Cozy” to maintain heat, ten minutes later on average you have a hot meal. Brilliant in the extreme.
Best alcohol stove I’ve used backpacking is known as a fancee feest alcohol stove. Google or Youtube it for instructions. Uses a fancy feast brand cat food can, a wick and a piece plumbing steel that holds the wick in place at the edge of the can. Its much more fuel efficient than most alcohol stoves, and the steel gives a secure seat for the pot to sit on. Weighs virtually nothing.
Finally I’ll mention Tinny from minibulldesign. He has completely perfected the lightweight backpacker alcohol stove. He builds them in his garage workshop and they are not cheap, but he can bake (yes, I said bake) biscuits, cakes and muffins without burning or steaming them. You have to see his end products to believe them, he also has two youtube channels.
Thanks for mentioning Tinny, his creations are worth a look at least.
Cat can stoves (Google Zen Stoves.com) are great…there are so many different DIY ways to create stoves.
When hiking the AT, I used a Haulite tea kettle by GSI along with Esbit tabs and a folding titanium stove to heat water for freezer bag re-hydration cooking. I used my winter hat for a cozy to avoid carrying another piece of equipment. The kettle heats faster than others because of the Haulite, the fold up stove and Esbit tablets were one of the tiniest things to carry I used twigs and wood when possible because the tablets were not always available. Although I could have ordered them online and had them shipped.
Thanks for mentioning these methods…
BTW Freeze dried, unseasoned vegetables and fruits are available even at some WalMarts. I have to watch ingredients because of my allergies and sensitivities. I have bought a large #10 can of broccolli which lasted an entire year. I repack into baggies for storage and I save the powder that collects at the bottom of the bags to add to smoothies and soups.
Dave, thanks for a whole bunch of good information! Very helpful!
Bob
+1 for the Kelly Kettle. I made some mods to mine: a raised grill to allow air under the burning sticks (sticks burn completely to ash so I leave very little evidence of my presence), a grill to sit the kettle on so that I don’t char the ground under it, a shelf at the hole on the side of the burn chamber to prevent embers from falling to the ground.
This setup was approved at one of Canada’s national parks during a fire ban!
I use thermoses too, for making tea later in the day, or to cook soup or rice.
Thanks for the comprehensive overview on a variety of fuels.
You are right, in an extended emergency, everyone would end up resorting to burning wood.
Ming, those are all great tips, thanks for sharing them.
Bob
The past few weeks I’ve done very little cooking. I just haven’t been in the mood for it. Instead, I’ve been eating things that don’t need cooking. It sure simplifies things.
Al, it really does! I’ve got quite a few items in my emergency pantry that don’t require cooking and until then I am always on the look out for no-cooking foods. I find that’s especially true when it’s hot, I just don’t want to cook, too hot!!
Bob
My last blog post discussed rocket stoves — superior because they use an insulated column to direct heat efficiently and need only a handful of twigs or less to boil water. There are some excellent YouTube videos of homemade rocket stoves, but below is a link to a tutorial with photos that I think is one of the most simple yet complete.
http://prepared-housewives.com/how-to-build-a-rocket-stove-and-impress-the-boys/
Of course, rocket stoves are for outdoor use since they do burn fossil fuel.
Thanks Carla, that’s a great link! Rocket stoves do work really well!
Bob
Carla, thanks for posting your site information. I have followed you for a while and you have great ideas.
I too have made rocket stoves, because of my travel and storage space, its not practicle to carry. I like knowing how to make them when I land somewhere long enough to justify making a version that I will eather leave behind or gift to someone when I leave.
I was happy to learn that the Kelly Kettle people have designed a rocket stove top to fit the fire bowl of the now famous Kelly Kettle…it will be a wonderful addition to that system. If you have used a KK before, you will be aware that cooking on the pot stand has major limitations. I didn’t like the thin stainless steel pots they sold as an add on either they were too thin and warped easily with the intense heat.
Water is LIFE. Without water there is no life. Many prepers just don’t think about it. It can be expensive and labor intensive to have a steady supply of drinking water.
Opa, we talked about water filters in an earlier post and will talk more about it in an upcoming land post.
Bob
Thought I’d mention that Prepperfest is on this weekend at the fair grounds in Phoenix. admission, $12.
Wayne, I hadn’t heard of that sure wish I had heard of it before, I would have tried to make it. thanks much for letting me know, I may still try to go but probably not.
Bob
I didn’t know about it either until it was on the news Friday night.
Wayne, I couldn’t make it today and tomorrow I am hosting a group dinner (Sloppy Joes and baked beans) here so no chance to make it this year. I’ll have to try to remember for next year.
Bob
I’ll stick with “free” whenever I can, but I do use a combination of propane and electricity. That little mini oven you can plug into your cig lighter is great.
When I use my RoadPro “lunchbox” oven, it draws so much power from my house batteries that the fridge cuts off. So I use it either for lunch when there’s plenty of daylight to recharge the batteries, or I run it off the van battery when I’m driving a long distance (which is really what they were meant for).
Yes Al, I use my van battery to run mine. Usually on my off days when I’m planning on running in to town from work, that way I can run it while I’m running errands.
Al, I know you have more solar on your van than have mine and I don’t have any trouble using mine. But, like you, I use it in early afternoon so it will fully recharge.
bob
Myddy, I love my Roadpro oven. It works great! Highly ecomended.
Bob
Ing, I realize you might have more sun on your vehicle compared to get mine along with We don’t get any difficulties applying mine. Nevertheless, as if you, I use that in early on day then it may fully boost.