As you know if you’ve been following me for long, one of my main goals for this website is to create a vandwelling tribe. I don’t think it’s enough to just inspire people and teach them about living mobile, I believe they need to have a community so they aren’t alone. For the last two years my friend Steve and I’ve been putting on a Thanksgiving Dinner that was open for all vandwellers to join us in our camp for Thanksgiving. For this, the third year, I put out an open invitation for all of you to join us. From the replies I got I was pretty sure it was going to be the biggest one yet. The first one was about 15 people, the second was around 20 people and this one was gigantic with over 40 people!
Think about that for a second. We were going to feed 40 people a full, traditional Turkey dinner totally off-grid in the middle of the Arizona desert. That means no running water of any kind, no stove and no electric grid! Sounds crazy doesn’t it! But my friend Steve is crazy like a fox and he knows how to get around every one of those problems. Every year he has managed to pull-off the impossible and deliver a delicious meal with seeming ease. With double the number of people, we knew it was going to be harder.
The last two years we de-boned frozen turkey breasts, wrapped them in aluminum foil then cooked them in our Weber portable barbecue grills. But we knew that would not be enough for 40 people. We needed two big turkeys to feed all of us, not just the breasts. But how to cook them? Our friend Bryce had just bought a large back-yard barbecue and had been using it as an oven so we knew for sure it could easily cook a big turkey. He generously offered to allow us to borrow it for one of the birds, but that left us with figuring out how to cook the second. We finally decided that we needed to get turkey fryer to do the second one. There’s a K-Mart in Blythe so I checked it out and they had a turkey fryer on sale for $45. That was a good deal so we decided it would work perfectly for us.
Like us, you’ve probably heard the horror stories of people burning down their houses by miss-using the fryers so that made us wonder if we could do it safely, but Steve is such a good cook and practical guy we were confident he could. Se we did a Google search and learned the common ways that people mess up and cause fires so we were confident we could learn from their many mistakes and do it right. Here are the keys to safely use a turkey fryer:
- Place the fryer somewhere so that nothing else can catch fire and the worst that will happen is you’ll lose your turkey.
- Don’t put in too much oil. Many accidents happen because their is too much oil and it overflows when you put the turkey in.
- Water and hot oil don’t mix, the turkey must be 100% dry when you put it in the oil.
- The oil is highly flammable so turn off the flame when you put the bird in, then once it’s safely inside, turn the flame back on.
- The turkey fryer is very tall and top-heavy so it must be constantly protected from the wind, dogs, and kids or it can’t be knocked over..
- If the oil goes much over 400 degree it’s possible to spontaneously ignite all by itself. So someone needs to be there constantly to monitor the oils temperature and adjust the flame.
- A fire extinguisher far away in the kitchen does you no good, have it nearby and ready to go at the first sign of a problem.
We followed all these safety rules to the letter and it went off without the slightest problem. We had the fryer very secure so nothing could move it, we placed a large piece of plywood so the wind couldn’t affect it, and I stood and watched every minute it was cooking. It was a dirty job, but somebody had to do it. If you are interested, at the bottom of the post I have pictures of the entire process of frying the bird.
- Two, 16 pound turkeys (we were limited by the size of the barbecue and fryer pot)
- One gallon of Campbell’s turkey gravy
- Ten boxes of Stove Top Stuffing
- Eight large fresh baked yams topped with butter, brown sugar and marshmallows
- Two pounds of frozen green bean casserole with Cream of Mushroom soup and Frenches Onion Rings
- One large 50 ounce box of Instant Mashed Potatoes
- Four cans of Cranberries
- Three bags of chips
- Five pies
- A large cake
- Three tubs of Cool Whip
Obviously, that was a lot of food and a lot of work and Steve did it all by himself! He’s a really amazing guy (and ladies, he’s available)! It all turned out hot and delicious! Everybody got plenty for firsts but with more than 40 people we did run out so there were limited amounts of seconds. But everybody got a normal amount to eat, just not enough to “stuff” yourself like we usually do at Thanksgiving! I’m counting it as a blessing in disguise!
So I’m declaring this Thanksgiving Dinner a huge success: lots of delicious food, over 40 new and old friends and perfect weather made it a time to not only remember, but memories to treasure always!
The only way it could have been better is if you were here! Start planning now for next year!
Looks good! Maybe next year….
Plan on it Rob!
Bob
Next to nuked turkey, which takes forever and ain’t gonna happen anywhere around here I know of, fried turkey is a very close second. Your chefs made a heroic effort. What did you wind up doing with all that oil?
Doug in reading the oil can be used 3-4 times if stored in a cool and sunless environment… As far as the used oil, we did not think of like Christmas, so we poured the oil in a wash and used the pot to heat the water to clean all the dishes…
“we poured the oil in a wash” ???
Ya know, almost every restaurant has an oil dumpster out back. Why not just take it and dispose of it properly? I don’t think a BLM ranger is gonna think too highly of that.
So much for leave no trace I guess.
LOL Damn I pissed off another, honesty is my curse… Easy there JD, it was not motor oil…
JD, I’m the guilty party and to be honest I don’t see any problem with it. It’s peanut oil, I don’t see what harm it could have possibly done. Do you know something I don’t?
Bob
No, except for the lingering threat of a bunch of elephants gathering around it and straying into camp, or maybe some very disappointed squirrels.
Doug, I wondered what that trumpeting sound was!
Bob
Oh, man, I just left you a LONG reply and I think I lost it. Anyway, I was saying that this is one of my most pet peeves. I quickly become “a mean girl” when I see dogs off leash and I yell at them AND their owners. I’m ready at the drop of a racing dog to put my walking stick in the air and get ready to impale it. Usually, a very loud, stern NO NO NO! GO HOME! will have the dog turning around and heading home.
My heart actually starting beating faster when I started reading this post – I’m glad you’re okay, so far. My dog and I, when walking, have had two incidents with unleashed dogs in RV parks. Actually one was tied up and slipped it’s collar and came running at us. I have a LOUD stadium horn on hand that I can use to scare away man or beast. I third the notion that it would be a good thing to carry on a bike. It might scare the dog, and also would bring attention to what’s going on if people are in the area.
Well Barb I guess you have to experience this life style, in my world, my camp, dogs run free and if you hit my dog with a stick, well let’s say we would have very serious words… My son Zeke will never rock a leash ever…
Anyone hits Zeke, they’ll have words with me as well!
Bob
I’m sure this was directed at bad dog, but it did ruffle my feathers reading it. I have a service dog that is a collie, and she is highly trained and is often off the leash (on it when out in public establishments) but is trained to respond to my needs so sometimes being off a leash happens, especially if she needs to grab something for me, such as my medicine, walking stick, or a safety item for my medical condition.
I think I would lose my ish if someone tried to beat her with a stick. In fact, I know I would. It might even trigger my heart condition to see my service dog beat.
I’m just going to calm myself and assume you mean vicious wild dogs with ignorant owners, and not a trained one that happens to be walking without a leash.
Barbara, I’ve had some negative run ins with wild dogs so I can understand your fear. But you are still thinking with your civilized mind and about “civilized” dogs. Almost no one out here leashes their dogs unless they are known to be trouble.
I’m really sorry to say this, but this may not be the place for you because very few dogs are leashed here, nor will they be in the future.
Bob
Barbara, were you answering this blog post by Doug?
http://strollingamok.wordpress.com/2014/11/28/cyclist-as-prey/
He was referring to dogs that chase and attack cyclists, not well socialized dogs that are just visiting.
Barbara, I believe when we are panicky due to an attack upon ourselves or upon our loved ones we have the right to defend ourselves, now, the concept of ‘ impaling ‘ a being it’s @ extremely CRUEL one. I would defend myself alright but, IMPALING a dog ?? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UN-ACEPTABLE !!!
With all my respect, Lucy.
Wow another TGiving, 40+ people is insane but doable, see just put your mind to it and all is possible… Huge thanks to the helpers, the dish washers and well wishers, it was a helluva ride, but we did it together…
Huge thanks to Bob who financed this, plus helped start to finish…
I have an issue with large crowds, so thanks to all that showed up and I didn’t meet, I hope you enjoyed yourself, next year I am to seriously gonna blow you all away… Bestmake plans now for next year it is gonna be good…
Last thanks to my bubby Bryce for the BBQ, yeah bro it can be done…
Last Happy Birthday to my son Zeke, my best gift of all time, 3 y/o this day…
Steve, we all owe you a huge debt for all that you’ve done for the tribe!
And of course, I will forever be in your debt personally. You’re a good man!
Bob
You owe me no debt my friend, it has been a helluva ride with you, that is all I ask from life… LOl why have all the hard times been with you LOL, snow wind sun and rain we have encountered, never trade a day… Helluva ride…
Indeed, that is all you can ask from life–except a good friend along for the ride; and we both have had that.
Bob
Zeke is just the Sweetest fellow!!!
I love that Zeke!
Bob
40 people??? I can barely manage 15. You must have some good organization skills.
Tommy, not in the least!! I just have a best friend who is a magician and somehow effortlessly makes it happen! Everyone should have one!
Bob
Great looking birds you all cook up so glad everyone enjoyed there thanksgiving dinner and I wish everyone a good Christmas and a better new year that the last
thanks Jim, and the same to you!
Bob
Wow, looks good! Sounds like you all pulled it off with style. Happy Thanksgiving!
BTW, years ago my dog was attacked by two dogs that were on a leash. Leashes don’t mean much if the owner can’t control her dogs.
Peggy, Steve has had enough practice he has gotten really good at cooking for large groups.
I’m still all in favor of leashes when in the cities or towns, but we aren’t, we are in the middle of nowhere with a very limited number of people around us. In this situation leashes just aren’t neccessary.
Bob
To clarify, when you said “with the inside burners turned off” you meant the middle two of the four burners. Don’t want people thinking there are burners outside the barbecue.
Also, the way you make sure you have the right amount of cooking oil is to place the turkey in the kettle, add water until it covers the bird, remove the bird and mark the level of the water. Then empty the water, dry the kettle, and add oil (peanut oil, because it can take high heat) only to the mark.
Steve and his various helpers did a great job!
Al it was a 5 burner Brinkman, with one external burner… The BBQ with the outside burners runs the Q,s temp at a perfect 325 full on…
As for the oil added per pound of turkey displacement, the issue arrives of displacement versus the wetting of the turkey… The cavity needed to be filled with water to get accurate displacement of oil, this worked against safety… LOL So in the end we just frigging winged it….
Al, right, the burners were all inside the barbecue, none outside. We knew about that way of measuring but Steve tried it and din’t think it worked as well because you have to take it out of the wrap to give an accurate measurement. This worked perfectly, the turkey was completely covered and never got close to overflowing.
Bob
It was the best family gathering and Thanksgiving I have ever attended. All the food was glorious and I ate until I couldn’t move…Hahahaha! I have to say the ‘green bean casserole’ was the best I have ever tasted. It was a perfect day! Thank you all!
Sameer, indeed it was great. I thought everything turned out perfect. I’m glad you were there and thanks again for your pictures.
Bob
Sameer, I credit my Mom with this easy recipe… You can adjust it for 1, 2, 40, 100 or more people… If you want this simple recipe, just stop by with paper and pencil…
Looks like a great meal and a lot of fun. My dog is about 25 lbs, and friendly as ever. I still keep her on a leash just for introductions at camp to see how she reacts with people and other dogs. She stays pretty close to either my wife or myself.
Douglas, that’s a good policy with your pup, I’m sure it works well.
Bob
It really has. Since we have lived in the city for so long, she still has a few bad tendencies, but never actually bit anything or anyone. When in the city, she is on a leash, but while in camp in the woods, she is one the leash for introductions and that’s about it. Sometimes she does run off a little bit, but she tends to stay very close to the wife and I in unfamiliar places.
Douglas, sounds like a great dog!
Bob
I had a great time meeting all the new people, and taking a peek at a few rigs, and having a few peeks at mine. The dogs running free was both good and bad… Dogs aside, it was a wonderful thanksgiving. I hope to see and speak with everyone at the RTR!
Vincent, we were glad you were and look forward to seeing you again at the RTR.
Bob
Like Sameer, I ate until I couldn’t move! Everything was perfect. The meal AND the company could not be beat!! Thanks to Bob and Steve for everything!
I’m really glad you were here Scott, I’m just sorry you couldn’t stay longer.
Bob
sounds like a yummy feast, I’ve heard good things about deep fried turkey, but have never had a chance to try some.
Ming, it’s delicious!
Bob
Bob and Steve, Thanksgiving dinner was just spectacular! I can’t think of a better way to spend a holiday than with friends and food.
The food was amazing and super-yummy – Steve, you rock! Thank you for cooking; thank you, Bob, for coordinating and all the other stuff you did. Thank you thank you thank you! Now it’s only about 360 days, give or take a day, until the next one 😀
You are very welcome Lois! Only 360 days, we better get started right now!
Bob
Both Steve and Bob (and the other helper bees) did a fantastic job of pulling this off. It’s so wonderful hanging out with fellow travelers and sharing tips and tales. I thoroughly enjoy spending time with those of you i’ve been able to meet, and am forever grateful that Bob has done such a great service in creating a time and space for our tribe of wanderers to gather. thank you!
Thanks Anni! But we also owe you thanks as well for running into town at the last minute and getting the things we forgot. And for bringing the beautiful flowers!
Bob
Yum, yum, yummos! A wonderfully delicious meal with such great and peaceful company. Thank you Steve and helpers for a fantastic meal. I’m so glad I got to join you all this year.
Gloria, it’s my pleasure to have you here with us again!
Bob
darn, ran out of reply buttons on the waste oil disposal topic. I tend to agree with concern about it, only for the unknowns of dumping something that is not normally found in that amount in that desert environment. For example, too much phosphate compound dumped in the water caused overgrowth of the wrong type of organism, hence phosphate free soaps were developed for camping.
I had some ideas for what to do with future waste oil:
1 – donate to someone at the gathering who is using veggie oil conversion on their diesel vehicle 🙂
2 – have people bring empty jars which can be used to make special thanksgiving oil lamps with the addition of cloth/ paper towel wicks
3 – bigger version of #2 is to make a modern day Inuit kudlik using a baking tray and cloth wick for use as a small campfire for evening gatherings. Here is an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZS-zgVNFI
Actually, I’d love to give this project a try sometime.
it’s amazing what those people managed to do with stone, moss, and dead animal fat.
And there are no bears to attract in the desert!! 🙂
Ming, we offered it to anybody who wanted it but what are they all going to do with all that oil.
I saw no harm done and no good alternatives.
Bob
I checked around on the EPA website, and dumping waste oil in landfills is completely acceptable. The only issue they had was dumping it down public sewers (causes blockage) or having alot spill into a river or lake as the oil floats on top of the water and starves the water of oxygen thus killing off life below. I think it’s fine, in the ground, it will bio-grade and breakdown safely, unlike motor oil.
Thanks for looking it up Scott. It’s good to confirm it was okay.
Bob
It’s really not okay. Since a “wash” in the desert southwest means it periodically fills with flood water, whatever is deposited there will be dispersed when the flood comes.
If one needs an authority to proscribe what is okay, just ask a BLM ranger on BLM land. What do you suppose their answer would be?
I’m quite surprised with all the talk here of “sacred mother earth” and all, that this issue would devolve into trying to rationalize a bad decision or shrug it off with suspect humor. I could see if the parties involved said “hey, it was not a good decision, but I didn’t know what else to do” I could understand that somewhat, with the idea there would be better choices.
Think if you owned a piece of land and you came upon someone dumping several gallons of used cooking oil on your property. What might your reaction be?
I had hoped the ethic being promoted here would be public land is OUR land and should be treated so.
If you think it’s okay to dump “harmless” cooking oil, why might the next guy not think it was okay to dump motor oil, or any kind of contaminate he was okay with. After all, motor oil comes from the earth doesn’t it?
Thanks for presenting an alternative view JD. Lots to think about in your comment.
Bob
what I was saying is that if I had been there I would have taken some of that oil off your hands to experiment with as a source of cooking/ lamp fuel.
Ming, that is a good idea, we did offer it to anybody who wanted it but none of us even considered that as a possibility The Eskimos used whale and seal oil as a main source of light over the Arctic winter so it might very well have worked since it so flammable.
Bob
Great post, I get the friendship and getting together, but I read all the things you guys ate, “stove top stuffing”, do you have any idea how unhealthy this stuff is? Miracle whip, pure chemicals. You all need to eat a lot healthier, like organic ingredients, I would have bought an organic turkey, from Whole foods or another “healthy” grocery store, but that is just me, I do not want diabetes or cancer, nor to be overweight. I love the fact you all get together, that is also very good for your health, and I approve whole heartily!!! But please, eat healthy!!
Klee, thanks for your concern, I appreciate it!
Bob
Sounds like most people had fun. Vegetable oil will break down in the earth. If you don’t like the pie with Kool Whip, don’t eat it. An organic turkey would cost twice as much as a regular turkey. Stop judging, your life will be easier.
Has anyone actually tried to grow or raise there own food while being mobile? I plan on pretty much staying within the central arizona desert, with the occasional jog up north, so a little easier for me.
Douglas, there is always talk about how to garden on the road but no one has come up with a good solution. Some people talk about taking chickens on the road but as far as I know no one has overcome the many problems with it.
Maybe you will be the one to figure it out!
Bob
I recently came across a youtube vid from that Laurie Theodoroux about sprouting as a source of greens. Do you know if she still does it?
Min, I’m pretty sure she still does, but I think it’s just a supplement to her diet. But I can’t say for sure.
Bob
Late to the online after party, but I have to give huge props to Bob, Steve (an awesome chef) and Bryce for a Thanksgiving to remember. I wouldn’t trade the meal that we shared for anything, because it was so much the traditional Thanksgiving, yet served in that last place you would expect it, with so many different people. It was a bit like a huge family gathering with lots of distant relatives that you haven’t met, but with whom you share a connection nonetheless.
As a new dweller who scored her van just in time to make it, I have to say that the dinner highlighted a great long weekend in the desert. For me, it was 4 days of meeting new people, seeing cool rigs, showing off my my own and still getting the ‘alone time’ that dwellers need.
It would have been danged near perfect if not for the ‘somewhat noisy’ neighbors 🙂
Susan, you have quite a way with words! Thanks for a lovely comment. Yes, our RVing, ATVing neighbors were not very concerned about anybody but themselves. But it was still a great time! Glad you were there!
Bob
That’s some serious turkey frying! It kind of reminds me of my huge family gatherings every holiday.
Jackie, I like to think of us as family, so that’s just what it was, an extended family.
Bob
Wow! Deep-frying turkey for 40 people is quite a huge work! It’s fulfilling though, right, especially when you see satisfied people.
Yes, it was well worth all the work!! Bob
I would like to see more posts like this. I definitely enjoyed every bit of it and I have you bookmarked to see new information on your blog.